Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (EDS)

  • What it is, soft diagnoses

  • What it does to the body

  • Crashes

  • Things to Forgive Yourself For

  • Managing Symptoms

Some visible signs include:

  • Bruises easily

  • Looks younger, little to no wrinkles well into 40’s

  • Soft, velvety skin

  • Building muscle fast when working out - especially in legs

  • Knees bow backward when standing

  • “Duck posture” butt sticks out, may lean forward or arch back in opposite direction.

  • “Backwards Neck” the jaw sits forward, rather than up

  • Feet may look “diabetic” swollen, red, etc.

  • Scoliosis

  • Flat feet

  • Forward head posture

Most people do not have all of these symptoms but will have many.

Some Medical overlaps include:

  • Mitral Valve Prolapese

  • Frequent sprains, dislocations, subluxations

  • Chronic joint pain

  • Chronic muscle pain

  • Dizziness

  • Fainting

  • Rapid heartbeat on standing

  • Poor temperature regulation

  • Cyst based disorders such as PKD, uterine, bladder, etc

  • Autism

  • Crashing - includes shakiness, fainting, and full energy depletion

  • Prone to rolling the ankles (yet not having fractures)

  • No or low sweating with inability to regulate internal temperature

  • Floating Knee Cap

Soft Diagnoses

Hyper-mobility is easy to diagnose, but it is not always EDS, the only way to get a diagnosis is through genetic testing. Most people self diagnose because there is no cure even when diagnosed. But this is to identify yourself, see if your symptoms match, and see if some adjustments that have helped me, help you. I highly recommend asking your ChatGPT to ask you questions to identify if you have EDS.

I am not a medical professional, I am a nerd who researches.

Signs of Hyper mobility and possible EDS. Most people do not have all of these symptoms but will have many.

  • Extra flexible, can:

    • Bend thumb all the way to forearm

    • Bend fingers back in a 90 degree angle

    • Can fold fingers over each other

    • Can press your hands into “prayer” behind back

    • Can touch the floor standing (reduced over age but still more than others your age)

  • Some behaviors include:

    • Preference to sit cross legged or on one leg

    • Needing to lean, standing upright is uncomfortable

    • Preference to sit on floor or have legs up

    • High caffeine addiction

    • Overeating/Obesity

    • After massage feeling imbalanced, difficult to stand for a while

    • Can “Click” a joint over and over again.

    • Stretching doesn’t loosen you up

What it does to the body

EDS is a connective tissue disorder. The body produces a different type of collagen, one that is more stretchy.

The biggest effects happen in the following ways:

Tendon/Muscular Balance

Because the tendons are “extra stretchy” it makes for cool party tricks as a child, but can also lead to the body being dangerously under supported. The tendons do not do the work of keeping structure like they should, leaving the muscles to do more work.

When taking a step your muscles have to over compensate and contract further to stretch the tendon in order to get the leg to move. This is why building muscle is easy when weight training - you’re working your muscles 30% more, doing the same movements. This can lead to chronically sore, tight muscles. But DON’T stretch them out. Your body has over compensated for a reason. Preworkout stretches and massage can relax the muscles, making physical activity less safe because you don’t have the support or control people with normal collegian do. It can be dangerous especially in sports, increasing the risk of rolling ankles, and even dislocations and fractures.

People with EDS are prone to sitting more casually, leaning, and prefer sitting with the legs up, or sitting with one leg curled under them. This is because the muscles are sore. When non EDS people stand their tendons are keeping their balance. Because your muscles engage more, standing and sitting upright are a constant workout. Standing too long will even begin to burn inside your muscles - and that time frame will be much shorter than other people. Because of this the body has learned how to rest in other ways. If it cant lean it will balance your weight on the bones and joints, which leads to irregular posture.

Because your muscles have to engage roughly 30% more, your body is eating through protein that much faster.

Pardon me as I rabbit hole with you for a second and let my marketing nerd come out: In America, in the 90s, major brands like Kraft were bought out by cigarette companies. As you know these companies took a fairly begin thing, the tobacco leaf, and pumped it full of chemicals to make it addictive, and cancerous. They did the same thing with our food. High levels of salt, sugar, and MSG make the food addictive. They also removed a lot of protein - which makes us feel satisfied after eating. If eating doesn’t satisfy us, we will eat more of it. So Americans are already chronically under in their protein intake - and fatter for it.

So you as someone with EDS are not even getting enough protein for a regular person, when you actually need considerably more to function. Lack of protein leads to crashes - discussed down below.

Posture

EDS are prone to “duck posture.” It starts in the feet. People with EDS’s feet will often rest their weight toward the interior arch and rely on the toes for balance because the tendons are not supporting the ankle and therefor not encouraging the outside foot and heel to keep the person upright. For this, a stiff sneaker is recommended, one that supports the ankle, has thick padding, and doesn’t allow the body to rest on the arches as much.

Going up the body, this inner arch collapse only adds to the bad posture when combined with knee locking. Because the tendons are not tight at the knee, the knee will push back further than it should. The person then balances their weight on the joints, rather than holding themselves balanced with the tendons.

Locked knees leads to an anterior pelvic tilt, the pelvis rotates forward, causing the butt to stick out further. Especially in women. This causes lower back pain and pinch that is not relieved by cracking - it leads to the muscles to be over worked and sore, they may burn quickly.

Rotated Pelvis leads to the bell sticking out further, and the back then over correcting leading to a big arch in the back. Stomach will stick out, and breasts may sit higher on the torso. This can lead to a hunch back or arch in the upper back - especially in men. Both genders will ultimately have a “backwards neck” because it rests forward and “hangs” off the spine when the muscle is resting. This bad posture will get worse over time and lead to damage. It is worth it to do things that support your body, keeping a camping chair in your trunk, giving yourself permission to lean or sit, being mindful to engage your muscles even if it hurts.

Spinal pain and Chiropractic Care

A person should not seek the help of Chiropractic care. Chiropractors will say they know what it is and then still treat you like any other patient. When doing imaging - your spine and neck will look terrible. But what they don’t know is that your spine is not fixed like other patients. Their cartilage is rigid, yours is not, yours is more like a stack of marshmallows. Which means the horrible x-ray they do in a regular patient could take years to correct, but in you, you may just need to stand upright. But for many EDS, you don’t know what good posture is so you don’t know how. Good posture may even hurt. When I got scans on my “backwards neck” my chiropractor was incredibly sympathetic to “how much pain i was in” and was shocked that I couldn’t feel it. And while there is some long term damage showing in my neck, the next set of X-Rays showed “remarkable improvement” and eventually a “fully recovery.” But I simply didn’t know how to stand right, and each adjustment I went to left me in pain for at least a day because it stretched out muscles that I actually needed to stay tight.

Vascular System (Heart, veins, arteries) and other systems

Everything in your body uses collagen therefore everything is a little extra stretchy. You may hold your breath longer than others. You may also be prone to cysts because toxins get trapped inside and inflate the organ walls. You may be more inclined to hernias and prolapses.

With EDS your veins will be stretchier too - which means it takes more pressure to push blood through. High blood pressure is common. One indicator that it is from EDS though, is how the blood pressure medication makes you feel. It will make people a little tired, but if you function perfectly fine at 170 over 100, and feel like all life has left you at 120 over 80 - it may be because your body actually needs the extra pressure to even function. This might be a relief because that means you aren’t lazy - but this is not your redemption. It becomes a question of your quality of life over living a long life. There isn’t a treatment, so if this gives you the permission to stop your meds to begin living again, but understand that the heart and organs will still reap the damage of what high blood pressure entails, even if it needs it to operate correctly.

Because of the high blood pressure, high probability of being overweight, leg swelling, fluid pooling (see below), and frequent “Crashes” (to be explained below) The person is OFTEN diagnosed as per-diabetic before sugar irregularities arise - which blames the weight for your problems rather than your collegian. But remember that this is a downward spiral scenario. The high blood pressure it causes may lead to medications that make you tired, in addition to protein depletion which make you overweight, which lead to even higher blood pressure. Blood pressure medications like lisinopril also cause diabetes after about 20 years of use.

Fascia and Lymph

Fascia is the space between skin, fat, cells and muscles. When eating a steak the white connective tissue in the meat are the fibers that run through the fascia layer. Through your fascia fluids hydrate and flush toxins that are then filtered by the kidneys. With EDS your fascia fibers are extra stretchy which means fluids don’t move as easily - especially against gravity. Fluids can pool and build up in the legs through the day. This is what turns the feet red, or causes swelling much like those with diabetes.

But here’s the difference between diabetes and EDS:

  • If pressing your leg leaves a dent that takes time to rise - that is pitting edema - related to diabetes

  • If feet turn red/purple especially when standing, and improve when you elevate legs that is the pooled fluid that is now moving again.

  • If swelling comes with neuropathy, and ulcers - more likely diabetes. But, EDS is prone to limbs falling asleep, but due to posture.

EDS pooling creates a very distinct and uncomfortable physical state. It can feel like their legs are heavy, achy, or full of pressure with a dull, internal throbbing rather than sharp pain. The lower legs and feet may become purplish or blotchy, often cold to the touch, while simultaneously feeling overheated or tingly. Standing for even short periods can trigger lightheadedness, brain fog, a racing heart, and a sudden wave of fatigue, as if all energy is draining out of the body. Some describe feeling disconnected from reality, overstimulated, or panicky, not from anxiety, but because of the body’s poor regulation of blood flow and heart rate.

These symptoms are quickly improved by laying down and elevating the legs. After work, or during lunch, it is recommended to take 20 minutes to elevate the legs to allow fluid to move. This not only relieves the pressure, it aids the kidneys in keeping the system clean, and it prevents crashing later in the day.

Top: Knees lock, which cause butt to stick out, lower back to roll forward, sticking belly out, upper back bows farther, leading to…
Below: Shoulders may then roll forward, causing a “hunch back”, and backwards neck.

Right: Backwards Neck, chin pushes forward, weight of head is hung on the top of the spine rather than held up by muslce

Ways EDS is confused for Pre-Diabetes

If your EDS appears with a certain set of symptoms you may be knee-jerk diagnosed with pre-diabetes. Bare in mind many people with EDS - especially with POTS they commonly have low blood pressure and are not overweight.

High Blood Pressure

Some people with the vascular variant may have early diagnosis with HBP, if they have coinciding PKD this will be most pronounced. A marker to look for is how you feel when on the HBP medication. It will bring down your energy some, but for those with this varient may find they can barely function when at a healthy 120/80bp. In addition, BP medicines that also work to pull water out of the system work against what the body is striving to overcompensate against.

Swollen Legs

Because the fascia is stretchier, fluid can pool in the legs leading to swelling, redness and a feeling of pressure. This is often mistaken as diabetes related symptoms. There is a quick test the doctors may skip. Press into the swollen skin. If it leaves a dimple that takes time to smooth back out, this is consistent with Diabetes. If instead it turns from the red or purple color to white, then right back, this is more likely due to EDS. The difference is because Diabetes is a circulation issue, and EDS has plenty of flow, it’s simply gravitationally held to your legs and feet so it returns to shape immediately. Secondly, the discoloration and swelling will go away when the legs are elevated.

Crashes

Diabetics experience crashes in sugar, when their blood sugar drops dangerously low. This is alleviated by eating a source of healthy sugar such as an orange. People with EDS experience something that feels similar, but is actually an adrenal crash. There are key differences that are subtle, learn more about this below.

Obesity

Those who are overweight will also be more inclined to be diagnosed as pre-diabetic when these other symptoms are presented.

EDS Crashes

The adrenal crash is one of the most impacting symptoms of EDS that sufferers aren’t aware of. It can look like muscle fatigue, shakiness, a generalized feeling of panic - that if you were told you are pre-diabetic - you will think is a sugar drop. Leading you to eat in a mild panic until you feel normal. If you’re giving your body some of what you actually need, like protein or salts, you might feel some relief. But you may eat, feel exhausted, lay down, and then slowly feel better after laying or taking a nap. Depending on what you ate - such as carbs, you may think the food made you tired.

Blood sugar VS Adrenal Crashes

A blood sugar crash (hypoglycemia) happens when glucose levels drop too low. This can occur if you skip meals, or eat foods that spike your sugar, leading to a crash. Your body relies on glucose for energy—especially your brain—so when it drops, the nervous system reacts quickly to restore balance.

You may feel shaky, sweaty, dizzy, weak, irritable, anxious, or confused. Some people also experience headaches, blurred vision, rapid heartbeat, or hunger. In more severe cases, symptoms can progress to difficulty speaking, poor coordination, seizures, or even loss of consciousness. The sensation can come on quickly and feel intense, sometimes with an urgent sense that something is wrong before the physical symptoms fully appear.

Immediate treatment is to quickly consume 15–20 grams of fast-acting carbohydrates, such as glucose tablets, fruit juice, regular soda (not diet), or honey. Wait 15 minutes, then recheck symptoms and repeat if needed. Once stabilized, eat a small balanced snack with protein and complex carbs to prevent another drop. Severe crashes where the person is unconscious or unable to swallow require emergency medical help and, if available, a glucagon injection.

An adrenal crash in the context of EDS relates to dysautonomia, where the autonomic nervous system has trouble regulating blood pressure, heart rate, and stress hormones. Because EDS can make the body less efficient at maintaining homeostasis, prolonged stress, illness, overexertion, or even inadequate salt and fluid intake can deplete cortisol and other stress-related hormones. The constant over extension of muscles, and need for adrenaline to do things like constrict the vascular system, causes the body to become fatigued. This results in a sudden inability for the body to sustain normal energy output.

During a crash, you may feel extreme fatigue, weakness, dizziness, brain fog, rapid heart rate, and sometimes nausea. There may be a sense of panic and shakiness.

Immediate treatment means resting. Electrolytes, protien, and elevating your legs for 20 minutes can restore you quickly.

GIVE YOURSELF A BREAK

My main point for writing this is to stress the following fact: Lighten up on yourself. Pushing through, manning it out, and trying to keep up with others is only going to make it worse. You’re not lazy for not being able to keep up with the physical activity of others. If anything you are stronger, because your body is working that much harder to keep up. Forgive yourself, give yourself time, patience, and love it enough to give it a break.

  • Postures deemed appropriate by etiquette were made by people whose connective tissue holds them it that position. If average people had to hold themselves in those positions by muscle alone then we would be told leaning and sitting cross legged is chique. Give yourself permission to lean, to sit on the ground, to put your legs up when you need to. You’re not lazy, you’re doing more than others are.

  • Not everyone will get it, but you can and should communicate with the people closest to you. If they don’t accept it then make boundaries to protect yourself. You don’t need to over perform for someone else’s ignorance.

  • Give yourself permission to take a nap if you feel drained, elevate your legs when you need to, and decline invitations that put you in situations that drain you. You don’t have to enjoy the beach.

To the left are links to items that I recommend and that work for me.

Ice Water

Get a large vacuum sealed water bottle, and keep that filled with ice water. Or even better: your protein electrolyte water.

Protein

Think of a protein supplement as your body needing premium fuel. Protein is crucial for fueling your muscles so that they don’t click over to adrenaline, which not only helps avoid the crash, it also balances out your cravings for food and will make weight loss easier if you struggle with that. I take 20-30g of protein powder in the morning and eat two eggs (12g) Do not listen to people who say you can only use 20g at at time - that is for muscle repair - you want to go beyond muscle repair, this repairs connective tissue, and keeps your body fueled without stressing. I then add 2 scoops 40g to my water bottle. If I eat its with a protein focus which will usually pick up another 20-30g through the day. I aim for about 100g a day, though I am heavier and could do more. But because everyone is lacking in protein even this bump will change how you’re feeling drastically.

Recap of Ways to Reduce Symptoms

Male with EDS

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Female with EDS

65g/day

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Electrolytes

Most people don’t use electrolytes at all - but you need double the average persons. Think of electrolytes to your body as coolant is to your car, and you have a leak. Because your body is exerting itself that much more, you need more electrolytes to keep it going. If you have not had the ability to sweat, you know you are hitting your goals when you do begin to sweat when necessary. If you struggle with overheating, especially in the sun, you are going to be amazed how much easier it is to bare the heat when your electrolytes are balanced. I use two servings a day, I add it to my water bottle along with the two scoops of protein.

Shoes

Because you are prone to rolling your ankles, nerve pinches in the feet, and systemically bad posture that starts at the feet. Structured shoes with harder walls, laces, and ankle support is key. They force your feet into the correct posture. That means flip flops, heels, and flats are out.

Elevate Legs

On lunch or after work, lay down with your legs on the back of the couch for 20 minutes to really get the fluids moving. You might find that this starts your day over. Rather than coming home wanting to collapse, this may give you the stamina to continue through the day. During the day also elevate your legs to keep fluid moving. Sit on your legs, cross them, or use a foot stool at your desk. Those are resting, and think of your 20 minute elevation as your reset.

No stretching or Massage unless safe

Pre-workout stretches, stretching because your muscles are stiff, and massage might feel great but they destabilize the muscles that are trying to stay rigid to hold you upright. It might not be obvious but if you pay attention you’ll find that you’re more wobbly, and that the soreness comes back worse later - leading to more stretching, and more soreness. What you can do is set aside special time during the week TO relax entirely. Just do it in a safe way where you know you can lay around and enjoy your evening.

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